Generally speaking, ~3.3 grains of Titegroup using a 147 grain bullet is about as vanilla of a competition load as it gets. Unique - 5.7 gn - 1250 fps. COAL are generally +/- 0.005" seated using Lee seating die. Although such an edge clearly exists, its significance cannot be quantified". Notes: Chronograph figures are for five rounds taken with the start screen at approximately 6 feet. I am now loading 4.1 grains TG with OAL of 1.135 to 1.140 inches. Jake travels the country shooting, directing precision rifle matches, and teaching precision rifle classes. An avid shooter and outdoorsman, George takes pride in the quality custom rifles that G.A. I have some Titegroup I am planning on using in 9mm. PF is between 130-135 depending on gun. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. For a newb, you are treading on very thin ice & IMO, haven't enough exp to determine if your load is "fine". Velocities taken at ~4-5 feet from barrel. Powered by Invision Community. On 1/7/2020 at 8:30 PM, looking4reloadingdeals said. First for 9mm and now for 45ACP. My question is how much would you load into a 158gr bullet. OAL is about 1.139 give or take. I'm thinken a 124 cast over 4.0 of titegroup has anyone tried that. Starting at mid range up to max. Nuts accurate. Phillip is a 10-year Marine Corps veteran having served his whole career in the Scout Sniper community. Although her family hobby was horse shows and barrel racing, her father introduced her to USPSA in high school. Sign up to get updates and access to exclusive promotions. December 31, 2019 in 9mm/38 Caliber. If you can't find a properly developed published load for that combination, do yourself a favor: Call Hodgdon, and ask them for the specific load data. You can post now and register later. Sorry for posting so many times in a row but I just got some new information. In that time I have used it for both hunting and competition. FMJ in my XD-9 vel. So you are saying you found data specificly for Berry's plated & TG? I use the Caldwell chrono and it statesthat the unit must be 10-15 ft from the muzzle for the reading. Lee, Lyman, Hodgdon, Hornady, all sorts of manuals have data. Hodgton indicates you can go to 4.1. During his time, Phillip completed 4 overseas deployments and served in all billets available to a Scout Sniper, to include Scout Sniper Team Leader, Chief Scout Sniper, and Scout Sniper Instructor. JavaScript is disabled. Dianna Muller earned a Bachelor of Science in Criminal Justice/Psychology from University of Central Missouri and retired from the Tulsa Police Department after 22 years of service. Snake River PRS club has become his pride and joy with a dedication to growing the sport by recruiting and supporting new and youth shooters. Started at 3.8 but it would not cycle my guns correctly so had to up it. I didn't think 4.5 grains was a max load either, because on the Titegroup container it says that for 115gr Speer GDHP max load is 4.8 gr. I use 3.5g Titegroup under a 147g JHP. JavaScript is disabled. Former lead pilot of the Blue Angels John Foley has reached been in contact along with Remington Mcbee and several others. Went out and tested 4 more loads today (2 of the same load) and got extremely similar results. is 1.150" with Hornandy bullets. Feb 27, 2020. Hmmm, I use the .40 cavity and get pretty consistent 4.5gn drops with Titegroup. For instance I use Montana Gold hollow points and consider them to be pretty much the same as Speer/Hornady. All I had was word of mouth and books. And by comparison the Lyman 49th shows titegroup at 4.0gr to 4.5gr max for the same Hornady XTP bullet. I've had no issues in sever thousand loads, other than having to adjust COAL a few thousandths one way or the other. As the name implies, this spherical propellant was designed for accuracy. 4.2 of titegroup over a 124FMJ is my 9mm load. I have been using 3.3gr Titegroup under 147fmj at 1.15 coal. Still using same load years later and it's a good round. Why? RCBS 9mm-125-RN-GC 123 TiteGroup 4.4 1045 129 . Ryan still has a passion for hunting, but 3-gun gives Ryan and wife Dianna the opportunity to travel together and compete with and against amazing people. She recently took on the role of Southwest Regional Director for the Precision Rifle Series. I didn't think I was moving that fast, I just didn't know that I couldn't use FMJ data for the Berry's bullets. FYI, when you think about it..even the amount of crimp can/will/could affect things. A consistent shooter, Regina has finished in the Top 20 routinely and in the Top 10 quite frequently in both the National Rifle League and Precision Rifle Series. Dianna has been highlighted by the NRA in American Warrior, the Washington Post and NRA Women. Brian moved back to Idaho, where he completed his bachelors degree in Business Finance at Albertsons College of Idaho. Soon, Zach was shooting skeet and fell in love with the sport. I plan on using Titegroup since I have it for my 45ACP. I try to use a longer than suggested OAL just help with pressures etc. Sowhat about Titegroup and what do some cases look like? Neither The High Road nor any of its directors, members, managers, employees, agents, vendors, or suppliers will be liable for any direct, indirect, general, bodily injury, compensatory, special, punitive, consequential, or incidental damages including, without limitation, lost profits or revenues, costs of replacement goods, loss or damage to data arising out of the use or inability to use this forum or any services associated with this forum, or damages from the use of or reliance on the information present on this forum, even if you have been advised of the possibility of such damages. Wyatt has won numerous elk calling competitions at the ISE Best of the West Elk Calling Competition. Starting load is 4.5gr for 1135fps. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. I use a Lee turret with the AutoDisk, and I'm finding that one cavity is at or lower than the recommended min charge, and the next cavity up is at or higher than the recommended max charge. I got the Titegroup on a recommendation. Working and enjoying the outdoors were just a normal part of day to day life. Looks like i will test some 4.0 and 4.2 as long as they stay below 1200. I have found it to be very accurate, and prefer it over my power pistol loads. I usually use the data for lead bullets when i load plated ones. A licensed Montana Professional Outfitter and Guide freelance writer, his articles and photographs have been featured in magazines including Outdoor Life, American Hunter, American Rifleman, Field and Stream. Dianna currently competes in the role of Captain for Team Benelli. What's the difference between the Berry's plated bullets and FMJ? Otherwise I would go 10% below the start for the closest slug the book had. Your link has been automatically embedded. Available in 1 lb., 4 lb. Need to be careful with plated bullets because not all are created equal. I think someone posted that very information just yesterday. Precision is making and looks forward to the future of creating the best professional custom rifles on the market. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. 125 gn bullets: Titegroup - 3.8 gn - 1100 fps. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Thanks for your patience. Loading is always at your own risk. Titegroup is what people generally buy when they are trying to make budget loads, and the general best Titegroup loads are between 3-4 grains of powder only, so you can load a lot of rounds with just 1 pound. 3 grains? This works well for me, although the TG seems to meter a bit inconsistant, so I bought some WSF to try out. Although The High Road has attempted to provide accurate information on the forum, The High Road assumes no responsibility for the accuracy of the information. Gaige Grosskreutz -- The Felon Shot By Kyle Rittenhouse. Posted by Donald H Nolen on Sep 26th 2022. Titegroup has it all - low charge weight, burns clean, mild muzzle report and superb, uniform ballistics. Depending upon the cartridge overall length. An avid outdoorsman, he enjoys hunting and fishing with his family and mentoring youth through his ministry service. Me thinks not, but I could be wrong. I havent had a problem yet. Used for my 9mm loads mostly. Phillip Velayo currently serves as Gunwerks Long Range University Lead Instructor. Is this not a safe load? Except that is going to be huge high pressure and very dangerous. tysdad115 Rating - 100% 15 0 0 Joined 124g berrys over 3.9g of titegroup 1.149 OAL. A precision rifle enthusiast and owner of GA Precision, George likely needs little introduction. and 8 lb. It's great for light target loads in revolvers but generates way too much pressure for mid-range loads or pistol loads Some powders that work much better are Power Pistol, BE86, or even the old standby . I'm a self confessed TG whore but 4.5 is a little warm for my liking I stay at the 4.3 range for a 115g FMJ. I am also using the Xtreme bullets. As the name implies, this spherical propellant was designed for accuracy. Starting Load Grains 4.9 Velocity (ft/s) 1,124 Pressure 28,800 PSI Maximum Load Grains 5.4 Velocity (ft/s) 1,209 Pressure 33,800 PSI Barrel Length: 4" Case: Winchester Primer: CCI 500, Small Pistol Trim Length: .750" Twist: 1:10" 115 GR. I remember seeing something similar here long time back. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I saw that there, Rusty, but I need data for FMJ, not HP. JavaScript is disabled. As long as they cycle fine in your guns, you should be good to go. In the last several years I have really focussed on the PRS, ELR, and NRL Hunter. For more information, go towww.P65Warnings.ca.gov. Upgrade efforts paused for now. plated or jacketed bullet at 1150 fps minimum came closest to the ideal load. looking4reloadingdeals Makes 900fps out of my G17. 1.100 in. In her free time, she shoots in NRL22 club matches around the Kansas City area, where she lives with her husband Shane and where she works as a pharmacist. I use tight group for 9mm. Min Charge Max Charge Optimal Charge Bullet Make Bullet Type Primer Notes; Accurate - Nitro 100 NF: 115 gr. . In addition to shooting, Zach plays plays baseball, basketball, football, and track & field. Excellent pistol powder for accuracy and cowboy action shooting. Walkalong, that was my guess also, but there are other fast powders listed with 900fps and 950fps loads. I am using TiteGroup for 9mm, but I`m loading 124 gr. Those who would emasculate Americans by denying them the right to bear arms are guilty of aiding and abetting evil when it strikes. All I ever used was Bullseye powderlove it. Didn't see any Tightgroup on this chart but plenty others. It's the cheapest and most available powder for 9mm in my area. The Lee second edition manual shows 115gr jacketed has 4.8gr max at 1.125 oal for 1158fps. I've been shooting 4.0 grains of Titegroup with Berry's 124gr. Here is what I have to work with and have used a combination of 3 books, 3 magazines, and self-reported loads from the interwebs. Titegroups unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. Its makes your gun a somewhat heat machine. Just dirty as we ever seen and HOT. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DSbEZeGeToe2YIoHyMXMjO9Oyp_dvQEM7VJ3tqfdwg0/edit?usp=sharing. was 1146fps. She has also competed for the USA in two Pan-American Shotgun matches and the 2015 IPSC World Shotgun Ladies team that brought home gold! In 2016, Phillip was nominated for Scout Sniper Instructor of the Year for his meticulous instruction that resulted in institutional changes in the training of Marine Scout Snipers in both formal schools and unit level training. Thanks for the input everyone! I ended up finding data for it on the instructions for the powder measure. And how are you metering 3.3gr? In just five years, he has earned an impressive shooting resume with consistent top finishes at national level events. It can be very dangerous because its so fast burning. Obligatory start low and work your way up Second Media Inc., 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. I am really enjoying reloading 45 ACP on my Lee classic loader. The .357 Sig handloads could have been loaded even hotter. Her assignments included Patrol, Street Crimes, Narcotics, and Gangs. Titegroup is what people generally buy when they are trying to make budget loads, and the general best Titegroup loads are between 3-4 grains of powder only, so you can load a lot of rounds with just 1 pound. That is all the negatives about it, it shoots just fine, its very economical and its just fine with accuracy. /wp-content/uploads/2016/08/HODGDON_LOGO_DARK.png, https://hodgdon.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/titegroup_1_lb.jpg. Hollow points may be shorter so COAL may vary some. Keyboards and steering wheels bring out the absolute worst in people. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. He is also the past Editor of Blackpowder Guns and Hunting Magazine. Warning! After this I would consider most all of the load data above close enough to start load development with. At first I was a little leery when I could not find the exact bullet I wanted to use with the powder I was using. 3.4 gr. Its no wonder so many people love this powder for their economical loads, its cheap AND accurate. Close w/ TG can be problematic. I looked at 9mm load data for 115, 124, 147gr and the range for Titegroup is, well, tight. Boris_La . Look at the large picture below, you can see, a normal load barely fills the case, its way down in there. But we're just a free cock punch away from finding out how badass you really are. A couple months later, Zach shot USAYESS competition in Grand Island. A plated bullet (Berry's, Rainier Ballistics) falls between the two. Unique. Tested 3.6-4.0 gr titegroup with berry's RN 124, col 1.150. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! SUBSCRIBE TO OUR NEWSLETTER TO STAY UP ON THE LATEST. I have looked at the factroy specs but I was looking for some input on loads that others use. Shes also the co-director of her local club, the AZ LRPRS, assisting in facilitating monthly matches throughout the year. Shooting steel plates or need to shoot fast? He is also a noted TV personality, regularly appearing on TV programs Shooting USA. One is hard pressed to find a nicer person. Maximum loads from Sierra: 115 gn bullets: Titegroup - 3.6 gn - 1100 fps. Every match Ive been to that chronic has the chrono set up at least 10 ft away. You don't want to just use data from a similar bullet. The google sheet has been updated for those interested in the difference or who want to reference the sheet. 4.2, 1.155 coal will work well. Titegroup is a fantastic powder for 9mm and .45ACP. Through shooting, Zach has met many people in the shooting community. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. Shoots well, functions well and it is light enough. If you enjoy the forum please consider supporting it by signing up for aNES Membership The benefits pay for the membership many times over. If you work from the max COL until they feed from the magazine and chamber correctly, you should find your ideal COL. My standard load is 124gr. Hmm, I thought it was 5ft. I dont remember my powder charger right off the top of my head. C.O.A.L. I have loaded 38 spl with 5.4 grains with a 125g bullet. I tried to make it "view only", if for some reason it does not come across that way please don't edit the document and let me know so I can adjust it. This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old . LOL. Todd is a competitive shooter and firearms instructor. The more inexpensive "competition" powder. I always set up my chrono at 10ft from the muzzle. Can't keep enough at the house. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. When I used titegroup my load with 147s was 3.0gr and with 124s it was 3.8gr, power factor was always around 130. 1 - 4 of 4 Posts. My conclusion is that a 115 gr. Makes a difference the JHP will be a little hot for FMJ - assuming you are not making SD rounds. You are using an out of date browser. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser settings before proceeding. A forum community dedicated to Carolina firearm owners and enthusiasts. I got the adjustable charge bar for rifle loads and tried it out with titegroup and it did not work. Your previous content has been restored. Just In the 2019 season, he will compete in twelve two-day national matches and 15 regional matches across the country, totaling 4,170 precision hand-loaded match rounds burning roughly 131,355 grains (18.75 pounds) of Varget in matches alone. With Hornady and Precision Delta 115gr FMJ best accuracy from my CZ75s is with 4.2-4.3 gr TG (~1100fps) Boris_La Posts: 85 Join date . A forum community dedicated to Glock firearm owners and enthusiasts. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Paste as plain text instead, This link will be updated as I continue to develop more loads and test them. No part of the landscape, from pop cans to squirrels, was immune to a 10 round burst from a Ruger. Really..so, how would someone measure that? I thought one was supposed to be at least 10 feet away from the chronograph when measuring velocity. I use Titegroup in my sig p320. Nov 7, 2015. I'm hoping this data may help some others that are looking for some data with Titegroup powder. I consider the type of bullet. The Lyman 44th Edition has data for Bullseye, Red Dot, Unique and Herco for 158 grain cast lead bullets . He is a four-time World Champion, 13-time National Champion, the only Triple Crown winner in Action Shooting Sports and has 600+ (and counting) local and regional shooting competitions. As a rule though, i try to keep it at the distance specified by the chrono brands i`m using. I dont plan on stopping anytime soon and this year is scheduled to be as busy as any while shooting 4 different series. We will pass. I am using 115 gr jacketed bullets with Titegroup powder. Used Titegroup and a variety of different weight and mfg bullets. behind a 115gr. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! I shot a lot of Sta-Ball 6.5 and it worked well beyond expectations. Every match Ive been to that chronoshas the chrono set up at least 10 ft away. Some flake powders have a wider range and they need it because they meter poorly. Growing up, Brian spent very little time indoors, with his passions being split between baseball and spending time in either the river, the desert, or the mountains. In addition, she is also an outdoor writer and photographer, as well as a national seminar speaker. Pressure 27,100 to 31,400. Maybe Ill do another test with the chrono 10ft away and see if I get any difference in results, thanks. It also burns hot, runs hot in your gun. ABOUT MARSHA: Marsha is the co-host of Shoot Straight with Chad & Marsha and is a Licensed Montana Professional Guide. This is a new powder to me and I understand that it is a fast burn powder.
