Thanks mld. 2y; View 3 more comments . Our relationships with Jesus need to matter more than getting up in front of a crowd does. How am I sure there are details? You my friend constantly bring him up. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Its a wonderful way to live, Lorenzo. YES and his congregation knows and it was handled perfectly. of course not, youll jump somewhere else. well is that what you did? well praying for you. You actually contemplate cheating on your wife because something as trivial as an ad pops up on your FB page? Diamond donny, theres a lot of truth in all that. He was already richI, Ive seen people get black balled by him..now the shoe is on the other foot , Id like to know how long this s.. went on and the people who knew said nothing out of fear of losing their job. Sharon saw her father going through it firsthand. We are all sinners and can do nothing without God. Wonderful speaker, truly inspiring, but Gay all the same. Active Word, a media ministry that distributed Coys Bible teachings on radio, television and digital media outlets, has also been suspended, according to a statement from the churchs board. Irenaeus taught dispensationalism in the 2nd century. Michael, youre kicking against Gods goading and your colors are showing. I dont always agree with his point of view and we have had a few discussions to that end. They too should hear, hey, we all sin, we all slip up. As planned, Jake was going to donate a kidney to her. Im so glad you kept your eyes on Jesus and didnt let men destroy your faith. As an attendee of Calvary FTL I disagree. In 2006, Coys church in Fort Lauderdale landed in court over claims of lax oversight. The governing board of the church is providing counselors and ministers who will help guide him through the process of full repentance, cleansing and restoration.". We all have the propensity. Lets wait and see how many he harassed and pressured. The fruit of the message or from the teaching is different than the personal fruit if a person does not heed that message, so the fruit I am talking about, are the hearers, those that heard the message and were saved by the message, and were edified and encouraged by the message, Im talking about those who grew by the doctrine they were taught and not only did they hear the word but also put that word into practice, and if they did then yes, we will see the fruit of that doctrine as they grow to also produce fruit! Phoenix Preacher 2023. "But we need to remember it is Jesus Christ who is our leader and not man.". The statement went on to say that a team of assistant pastors already on staff will maintain their usual rotating schedule as teaching pastors for all services. It is not an easy process, but you will find one. A board meeting was called on Thursday in which he confessed and resigned. As she saw how the machinery kept him alive after his spirit had died, she knew that was not the fate she wanted for herself. I actually felt bad for that new Pastor who was the Youth Pastor because He was not ready. [9] Nothing special about me, only the strength the Lord provided. Whether you are a participant in CCFL or not, the bigger picture here is that Pastor Bob is not Jesus! Let this be a sign to you, that if by this time next year calamity has not befallen you, to teach you to not malign Gods work and kingdom! Make your own application, Bob wrote: Ive studied John Macarthur for quite some time and know him to be a wolf in sheeps clothes. Not at all, just speaking the truth of what some of these churches teach, many believers dont realize this until much later then its a lot harder to leave, better to know at the outset! Right now, my concern is for the wife, the children, and the congregation. no takers? Thank you, Nonnie for your prayers for my children! Youre evading the question, who are your accountability partners, what is the name of your congregation? This is irritating. Dusty, no, Steve will tell you theres nothing but good fruit and clear skies and smooth sailing. may God give wisdom, grace, and comfort to all those affected. We all know that we are all sinners saved only by Gods grace. If you want to play silly games it will not last long. I am Michaels friend and have known him for several years now. Yes, I was on staff a long time ago and didnt like the behind the scenes stuff. David was a man after Gods own heart. Michael, Heres a great picture that you will appreciate, courtesy of Reddit http://ppcdn.500px.org/46961604/93440f80cd492bca3ff2ae5626d488dfc26c4bb4/2048.jpg. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they teach., And also with Paul who said in Phil 1:15-18. Bob has helped save thousands with his teaching and we should leave the punishment up to God and pray that he will repent and use this fall to come back stronger than ever. The church has 10 campuses around Florida and has hosted numerous evangelical speakers, including evangelist Billy Graham, author and speaker Joni Eareckson Tada and actor Kirk Cameron. Cause all we know now is that Bob can work it. You give yourself a severe disadvantage by doing so, whenever you are discussing doctrine with someone. Its actually a struggle for you to keep your commitment to your wife? That may sound petty, but really, your comment is, well, naive. 17 The former preach Christ out of selfish ambition, not sincerely, supposing that they can stir up trouble for me while I am in chains. Whats the big deal, so he diddled a few broads, werent they consenting adults, how can anyone judge, maybe they had an open marriage, comman people relax its only sex, it only last a few minutes, what is that, like less than 5% of all the other things hes doing for the church, leave the guy alone, I dont see any women complaining, didnt King David have a few dozen women standing in the wings waiting for their turn, and how bout Solomon, a few hundred to choose from, well dont read their works in your Bible then, and isnt every pastor guilty of adultery if you take Jesus words seriously, that to look upon a woman with lust youve already committed adultery, using this criteria shouldnt every pastor in America be fired, give the guy a break, hes a good teacher, everyone strays a little bit and has a little strange on the side, many wives know this and realize it doesnt mean anything, just a little release. Barbara, You will have to do the homework. Yes or no. Which one of these statements do you not agree with Flynn? Im not accusing, Im reporting. Frank, are you cool with Calvary Chapel pastors judging those outside their church who are gay and want to get married? Look at any end times prophecy books on the shelf today all written by dispies. However, keep in mind that Coy would sue me into oblivion if I was wrong. So, when they said, clean out your desk, he did.. people need to vent, to be angry, to feel betrayed and to weep. As time goes on we grow and are sanctified as we choose to do those things that are right and lament the things we do wrong. I am crystal clear on everything you have told me and havent told me anything I didnt already know. http://www.charismanews.com/us/43401-confessing-moral-failure-meagchurch-pastor-bob-coy-resigns-calvary-chapel-fort-lauderdale?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter. Bob Coy founded Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale and turned it into a 25,000-member powerhouse before resigning in disgrace. , ; , . As one who lives here in S.FL, there is nothing in the news about this. Your pastorking has gotten caught. Here is what Acts 2 does to your literal 1,000 yrs. And I did ask Andy and others if they could make a connection between Isaiah and the millennium? Calvary Chapel is notorious for their cover ups. Flynn wrote: To simply read the Bible simply you would never come up with conclusions like. Just like you were proven wrong about the giving of the Holy Spirit requiring baptism. Kempner had a historyand was unrepentantuntil I posted the arrest record. Sure would make the shame easier to bear.. She works with children! Matt. Thank you. That is why Mark Davis & Clay heacocks leftthey saw this stuff and said enough is enough!! Just think if David was removed as king for his indescretions, his adultery and then setting up the killing of her husband. Mercy should not be misused to render punishment ineffective for both. What is interesting to me is how little difference of opinion there is. That shows you how much they initially pledged. I stand corrected. it never happened. In fact, the church had been battling accusations nationwide for years that it empowered predatory pastors while demanding little accountability. May you find love and fulfillment with a significant other who will love and accept your world view. She was about to go through an adventure that would make her feel more confident and offer her a fresh start in life. If our practice (fruit) is sinful, does that not cast question upon our doctrine? 5And one of the elders said to me, Weep no more; behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has conquered, so that he can open the scroll and its seven seals. 6And between the throne and the four living creatures and among the elders I saw a Lamb standing, as though it had been slain, with seven horns and with seven eyes, which are the seven spirits of God sent out into all the earth. This is not a time to gloat that a prominent CC pastor has fallen. So you are surely Martin Luthers disciple. Coy shocked his flock and made national headlines by walking away from his ministry, selling his house, and divorcing his wife. This is awful. Yes he lost his Kingdom but he gets to keep the treasure! You probably dont want to go there with me, as I may know more than you want to hear. #RealLove. This will blow up to be a lifetime deal on Coys part. As of September 2017 1,800 churches operated with locations in all 50 states across the United States of America, and others internationally. I am deeply stunned, sickened, hurt and devastated about this news. Lets you and I join in prayer along with all the others that are doing the same thing for Pastor Bob and pray that The Lord will deliver him from this horrible thing. I actually have people Im accountable to and I speak with them almost daily. Loss of a job, insurance, future employment, loss of career. Does Satan have a body? Coy has had a national ministry, not just one to the local church and his fall is a matter of national news. It hasnt and will never happen. To "avoid substantial injury" to Coy's former employer Calvary Chapel according to the court file. Kassanndra Cantrell a lady from Tacoma, Washington, disappeared in 2020 without leaving behind much evidence. What are you talking about? , : - -, - -. YOU are wrong. According to numerous sources and documents we have obtained, Coy has already been dismissed by his board. the Daimler-Chrysler Design Excellence award twice, and earned him entry into the Grand National Roadster Show Hall of Fame, the SEMA Hall of Fame, the Route 66 Hall of Fame, and the National Rod & Custom Museum Hall of Fame. What about the husbands and children of the women you use just for kicks, so you dont get bored? "My heart is breaking for my Church, my Pastor and his family," wrote Marie L. Harris in a Facebookcomment. It also seems to be an across the board thing crossing doctrinal and denominational lines not limited to one type of church governance.. Cue the anthem.. Its crazy that people think Bob Coy had ONE affair, caught a conscience about it and decided to step down. Them coy has no grounds to sue you. I dont like that at all. . It falsely teaches that a person must walk well enough to prove that they were saved. Ok I got it:) So do you NOT believe jesus is coming back for the bride one day? AND HAVE YOU EVER VIEWED PORNOGRAPHY, WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME, AND WHAT WAS THE REASON FOR YOUR EXCOMMUNICATION? Im not married. The New Jersey-based folk-rock band Driftwood is still a few hours from taking the stage, and a handful of early arrivals sip beer and laugh over the canned blues soundtrack. 20:2 and a great chain. David, Jerry Falwell despised Bakker because of his theology and his lifestyle. How is asking for prayer casting a stone about something for which he has admitted? Jesus loves him and his family very much. And so if you cant read shall reign with him 1000 years as shall reign with him 1000 years, that is your personal issue. Probably just coincidence. God can bring restoration- please Lord, help the Coy family. Time will tell. Yes, you have every right in our Constitution to report this..but what is legal and allowed may not always be the right thing to do.. in the sake of mankind and compassion for Coys wife and children and given the emotions they are going through at this time, perhaps some delay in reporting it until the church publicly announced it mightve been best and in order, the way the local mainsream media did. The next level of givers got to have a dinner with them with more people, the next level got a buffet dinner> The next got a lunch buffet and then some got nothing. All I have published are the bare facts that I could verify through multiple sources. You are a liar and you need to repent. It has nothing to do with the Bible. not being married doesnt answer the question, thats why i said fornication, or do you feel that if youre not married you can sleep with someone without being married, also when was the last time you viewed pornography?.remember lying is a sin! Coy, who has also been divorced from his wife, is reportedly looking into the prospect of starting a new church again despite the controversy. MLD wrote: so you put up a man who has been dead over 400 yrs and argue with him. Blessings and peace to you as well, Dusters. #464, Unfortunately, I see this all over the place in American evangelicalism. Coy rented space for his church from a funeral parlor in Oakland Park and made ends meet by selling shoes while his wife worked as a waitress. My husband and I were members of Calvary Chapel Ft. Lauderdale for 14 years, we left 7 years ago to move to South Carolina..We loved Pastor Bob and his family and what he and Pastor Fidel did to bring Calvary to where it is today it is amazing. There is blood on my sword. 2 But exclude the outer court; do not measure it, because it has been given to the Gentiles. And my Bible says for God so loved THE WHOLE WORLD Sorry no tulip there! Get over yourself. With his tale of drug addiction and strip clubs, the newly redeemed Coy was a perfect fit for Calvary's edgier message. Am I close? Registered in England and Wales 5090917, Christian Today, International House, 24 Holborn Viaduct, London EC1A 2BN, Evangelical church redirects payments after CofE gay blessing vote, Evangelical church pursues alternative oversight after CofE same-sex blessing vote. Read broadly from people who have some form of biblical training. How is that any different than the Bob Coy situation? where the Bible literally says that there will be a 1,000 yr EARTHLY reign of Christ this should not be hard since it is so clear. There was too much drama with Kennedys passing at Coral Ridge. Its their soft term for adultery. So if you can recommend a Biblically sound local church that would be great. Why kick a wounded brother in Christ????? So if the message was right the hearing and application of that message will produce the right fruit! I pray Coy takes the time needed before he returns to the ministry. The self-proclaimed Zig Ziglar of rap, Billy Delgado, is a Music Producer/Artist and Writer by day and sleeping pillow-drooler by night. Michael and erunner, thank you for the kind words. Why are you Christians so indignant and condemning, isnt it natural to want to be with many different women, arent we programmed that way as men. His church started with just 25 members in a Costa Mesa lot in 1965, but by the mid-2000s, it had grown to include hundreds of affiliated chapels around the nation and internationally plus a lucrative array of radio stations. finding out our churches and pastors had failings and unrepentant sin. Chuck Smith did it to mehe got diagnosed with cancer a month laterdied a year later to the day. A few years back after leaving the church I found some old cassette tapes and his messages were less funny and more serious. But I would bet that you wont find a man on here who had not looked at porn in one form or another and for sexual gratification thus all are guilty of fornication and adultery, for whosoever looks upon a woman to lust after her, has committed adultery in his heart -Jesus-. His name was Bob Coy, and until the previous year, he'd been the most famous Evangelical pastor in Florida. We have been waiting for him to make things right. Baker and haggard were false teachers. I dont the adulterer always chooses to dishonor and humiliate his wife. God forbid he get a real job like the rest of us. A dear friends daughter became a Coy-ite while pursuing a degree in the Ft. Lauderdale area, and my friend jumped on the bandwagon after visiting CC during a trip down there. Grace and mercy abounds. Jimmy kind of got thrown under the bus, he did not get all of these gracious words for his infraction. Thats right, his own church leadership did the judging. "There were no other allegations," he says. NOTHING can take that away ! This will certainly be a season of emotional turmoil for CC Fort Lauderdale, as they lose their senior pastor. There is more nonsense on that site than I think Ive ever seen piled in one place. Maybe the crime scene was unprotected late that night. Like. Two years later, a Calvary Chapel in Laguna Beach fired its pastor for adultery and embezzlement but Smith quickly rehired him to preach at the nearby Costa Mesa church. I knowI can tell when youre chewing me out. For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them. (Eph. The Peter comparison is not unreasonable. This is the church were talking about. 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When one is so charismatic and manipulative, it is not hard to distinguish between the 2 for me. I am just trying to do better myself. why do the most ardent Coy defenders have to use capital letters and too much punctuation? Vince hated that Sharon wasnt thinking about them, but he couldnt stop thinking about them. Jean, this went on at a large church I attended for awhile and when I questioned it I was told it was a common practice, having what they called aKings Circle. Did Jesus only die for Christians? Read his book about the Kingdom. We all sin. The regulars here are great people. Thank you for posting such a powerful and healing message. Now would be a good time to write us a full article on this issue. Twitter Also some of these churches are teaching that there is no rapture but all the prophecies in Revelation have already been fulfilled, and that Nero was the antichrist, so theres a lot of sifting through garbage that you have to go through to find a good church! I hope his family and wife learn to love and trust again. So we have to have a discussion on the subject: What exactly is church? He loved having yes men around him. I think thats a YES! Newnham also wrote that Coy was taken off the board membership page for the Calvary Chapel Association, a ministry started by the late pastor Chuck Smith. No excuses, no buts. We are living in times unlike any other time in history, when did you ever hear of kids sexting, porn at the click of a button, drugs (marihuana) legalized, same sex marriage being made the law of the land, its a war the Bible says that is raging with the devil knowing that his time is short, woe onto you inhabitants of the earth for the devil comes down to you with great wrath knowing that his days are short So we have casualties of war, BC is a casualty of this war, one who needs healing and restoration, not expulsion and condemnation! Why are we sitting there looking at people performing on stage anyway? You may buy the old line well we were just standing there and our clothes fell off I dont. It falsely teaches that a person must walk well enough to prove that they were saved. 2.) v.23 and let his portion be with the beasts of the field, till seven periods of time pass over him, v.25 and seven periods of time shall pass over you, till you know that the Most High rules the kingdom of men and gives it to whom he will.. There were only a select few who could say anything about anything. Bob, The Bob Coy topic has gone to seed as has this thread so it is a good parking place for just some general conversation it doesnt intrude on the newer threads. He had other associate pastors go publicly in front of the congregation after their infidelity. and help keep the future of New Times, Use of this website constitutes acceptance of our. Bob Coy, at Liberty University's convocation in 2013. http://pompanobeachfl.gov/pages/department_directory/development_services/planning_and_zoning_division/pdfs/maps/city_map.pdf, http://www.city-data.com/zipmaps/Pompano-Beach-Florida.html. ", Anne Marie Giri, a churchmember who was present at the announcement, stated that although the she was disappointed, we must not put our faith in human beings. I love God and Jesus so much that is why I feel and pray the best for Bob Coy and his family. I pray that Bob would be broken over his failure as a husband, father, and pastor. I am not honking my own horn here, either. Because of their public persona, people like us are also passing judgement on her personal life. We are all vulnerable. Like his mentor Smith, he looked for converts in unusual places. awesome. Evidently the vast reach doesnt include responsibility to inform all those reached. We arent saved by our actions, we arent saved by our morality, we arent saved by our correct doctrine. Sin is sin regardless and it seperates us from Him. He is in the process of restoration. I honestly applaud you. "He was just transparent, and he could be very funny as well. Andy, I made a couple of comments to Mary! Listen to his own words here: http://www.thewatchmanwakes.com/John-MacarthurMark-of-the-Beast.html. 4 But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and decide with equity for the meek of the land; and he shall smite the land with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked. Youre not speaking Gods words, youre talking out your sanctimonious backside and youre in sin. This website is, usually, dominated by people that hold to one very narrow view of eschatology. Things like not drinking beer or lusting after women. Their congregation consists of approximately 20,000 members. You may respond to the Gospel and be saved, sure. If so how can one person handle it all? Coys position on Israel is moot if his relationship with his wife is on the rocks. She loves binge-watching and can spend hours talking about movies and TV shows. My apologies to all people who are 300 pounds or over it wasnt my intention to insult you or hurt your feelings and my apologies to MLD in reading your post, they seemed very callous and cruel without regard for the scripture that says that we need to consider ourselves lest we also be tempted, so this caricature came to my mind but again my apologies and I want to ask the moderator to take down my previous post since Im unable to do that, Thank you.

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