length article about the .357 Magnum can be found on the Handgun I too have used Alliant 2400, it makes an excellent full/hunting load. Now this rifle is ready for use by several generations of our family. same bullets to a MV of 1409 fps. Originally Posted by Hick. Contest open to U.S. residents only. Not bad for jacketed either, but wont launch em near as fast as 2400 or H110. 231 is fine for a 38 load but not slow enough for a full house 357. 32 Auto. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. Utah Division of Wildlife Resources, State Agency: It would be great if I could also use it for .44 mag and .44 special. Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. by 9.8 grains of HS-6. I'm off to a slow start because I have other things going on, but I should be ready to rock real soon. Associated taxes and fees are the responsibility of winners. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Maryland Department of Natural Resources, State Agency: Federal Centerfire Primers. If you hunt in predominantly tight spaces with shorter sight lines, a .357 lever rifle is a wonderful gun to carry all day. In the .357 for heavy loads I have come to love Hodgdon's Lil'Gun w/magnum primers. Firearms dont get much more iconic than John Moses Brownings legendary Auto-5 semi-auto shotgun, affectionately called the Humpback for its distinctive drop at the rear of the receiver. I use both bullseye and 231 for 38 special. Arizona Game & Fish Department, State Agency: Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for DILLION CARBIDE 45 LONG COLT 3 DIE SET #14405 NOS RELOADING at the best online prices at eBay! For heavy loads, the Speer Winners will be notified by certified mail on official letterhead. Super clean burning. If I was starting out to load a magnum pistol, like .357, .41, .44, or T/C/Ruger-Only .45 Colt, I'D want Alliant 2400 to learn on. Since I started doing this seriously, Ive only bought one gun, a .308 bolt-action rifle. That is especially true if you handload. I have also used Unique with success on lighter loads, Bullseye, Red Dot and American Select didn't impress me for 357 but I didn't try too hard either. If that works for you, forge onward. I'm not looking at any manuals , so hard for me to say what FPS , but for a 158 gr pill as you had asked about , maybe 1100 to 1150 .?? Its not exact practice, but it wont bankrupt you to shoot them weekly. Take it from a guy that chased for the holy grail of powder to do both well for over a yearjust buy two different powders. A stiff .357 load is plenty of punch for a relatively delicate animal like a whitetail. My Lyman's claims that for 357 magnum, the 2400 is the best powder delivering highest velocity and accuracy. Disclaimer: The above is not holy writ. When Im researching guns and I find myself in that fevered moment where I must have a new treasure, my most common check against excess is a simple mental test: 1) Is it going to do anything my .357 Magnums wont do? You can get some rounds with wallop from a manufacturerbut itll cost you. If you are looking for a target/plinking load for your 357's I have found using 5.5 grains of Unique behind either a 158 grain LSWC or Rainier Plated bullet to be very accurate and pleasurable to shoot. Two guns, one cartridge: The Marlin 1894 and the Ruger Old Model. While the Colt Model 601 was the first AR-15 to be mass-produced, there were several design variations that came before during the platform's development. Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. The Nylon 66, a relatively inexpensive rimfire with faux woodgrain, was the first successful synthetic-stock firearm. The last one, a brand-new Remington/Marlin, came from my local gun shop a couple months back. pressures may have been even higher; and if you shoot one of those . For smaller game, Ive stuffed a 90-grain lead bullet into a case over a slight charge of Bullseye for a quiet, soft-shooting round that has taken many rabbits, squirrels and grouse by headshot. Using a case filling powder is just an extra precaution I try to use in my regimen to ensure I don't double charge. I use it in .38 Special, .357 Mag, 45 ACP and even light loads in .41 Mag. If it's a hunting load or full power defense load your after, a slower powder designed for magnums will give you more versatility. If you have While visiting a gun shop south of us a year or so ago they recommended against 2400. But in those three disciplines, the .357s potential is going untapped, you could argue. The firearm hobby is a broad one, with many subdivisions of interest and activity. 6.1 gr. I prefer the Unique or Universal as Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by Throwingdown, May 26, 2009. Associated taxes and fees are the responsibility of winners. At the VERY least, use a copper Gas Check lead bullet or a copper plated bullet. These Speer velocities found the 140-146 grain bullets to be a good all-around choice for use Much cheaper to load your own. I'll get there and with everyone's help here I think things will go fairly well. I purchased my first when they first came out and our family has added three more since then. yoshie wrote:22g of 2205 nearly fills up a 44 mag case to the bottom of the bullet, 10g of AP70n isn't as full. Copyright 2004, 2016 by Chuck Hawks. The .357 Magnum was developed as a joint effort between Smith & Wesson (S&W) and Winchester, and was formally introduced in 1935. 28 gauge. I'm looking for a really strong suggestion for two different loads. "I'm not often right but I've never been wrong. 231,100% burnt at 1.85 inches of barrel length. For Unique: Select A Caliber or Gauge Below To View Recipes. For most of my big-bore sixgun loads I use straight wheelweights for loads under 1,100 fps; however, with the smaller diameter .357 Magnum bullets I prefer a harder alloy and normally mix lead and type metal in equal amounts. 3. For a medium velocity load in .357 Magnum cases with 158-160 grain bullets at 1.58" OAL use these as minimum start loads and OK to increase a grain or so as needed to get best accuracy. Winners must respond within 30 days of receiving notification or an alternate winner will be selected. When I dress Western, nothing beats the classic good looks of my Smith & Wesson (S&W) 586 .357 revolver. Some of the components John uses for the .357 Magnum for leverguns. Ammo, Inc. Signature .38 Special - 125 Grain TMJ (Total Metal Jacket) Brass Cased Centerfire Pistol Ammunition - Best Stopping Power .38 Special Ammo. IMR Smokeless Powder - Rifle. Teach them the truth, and let them sort thru the cobwebs of liberalism that have infested their minds. Box 488, Escondido, CA 92033. Employees and agents of Publishers Development Corp. are not eligible. 0 Comments. Winchester 296/Hogdon H110 is a powder which cannot and must not be used for light metallic cartridge loads! For hard cast work up to no more than 6.7grs max Winchesters data, bullet. It is a good solid gun but I made a few personal changes. bought commercially (in the 70s). Most loads will work fine in a sixgun as long as they chamber in the cylinder, however the levergun can be pickier. It's also useful in somewhat reduced loads for the 357 and 44 magnum cartridges. I used 13 gr of Alliant's 2400 under a 125 gr. I have used 2400 for 357 but like it better for 44 Mag. Florida Fish & Wildlife Conservation Commission, State Agency: Theres load data for pretty much all of them in 38 special. North Carolina Wildlife Resources Commission, State Agency: (II) Limit one (1) entry per household; multiple entries will disqualify entrants. All rights reserved. Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: GUNS Magazine, Altor Pistols, P.O. For any loads over 900 FPS, I suggest using a jacketed bullet. Alliant Powder Reload Recipes. Hodgdon recommends lighter-than-usual powder charges for the 140 grain FTX. I would exclude H110 altogether. This load in a 5-1/2 Ruger New Model Flat-Top clocks out at 1,333 fps. Free shipping for many products! This morning I shot my first 357mag handloads in my Ruger GP-100. Pennsylvania Game Commission, State Agency: H110 and 296 require Magnum primers and like to be loaded at the upper end. HP-38. Hand loading required. (I) Giveaway ends May 31, 2023. Becoming one of my favorite powders for .32 and .38 revolvers. It's a very fast powder so there's not alot of room between starting and max loads. Winchester Smokeless Ball Powder. These days, thats saying quite a lot! This was written nearly 40 years ago and not much has changed. Employees and agents of Publishers Development Corp. are not eligible. not in popularity or usefulness. I use 4.2 grs. Follow the reloading manuals precisely. A shooter using the .357 must limit himself to broad-side shots on deer. That's with magnum primers. in the field and very accurate. This load in a 5-1/2 Ruger New Model Flat-Top clocks out at 1,333 fps. 38 Special - +P 125 Grain SJHP - Remington HTP - 500 Rounds - Best Low Recoil 38 Special Ammo. But for all that inherent diversity, Ive found theres a single cartridge that lets me cover most bases while keeping expense down and enjoyment up. Deployed military should use stateside address. These will give you some versatility with power levels from medium to heavy magnum loads and they work well in several calibers. Shellholders: Lee #1 I'm just looking to load plinking rounds. It is not the best for all things, but it will work in just about any pistol caliber! Factory warranties may apply in some cases. full loads. recommended), (you can try 3.3 gr. My most-used load these days in a .357 Magnum sixgun is the Lyman #358156GC bullet over 14.0 grains of #2400. Prizes will not be awarded if illegal in jurisdiction of winners. 2205 isn't the best choice in handgun length barrels, where it shines is rifle length barrels.I use 2205 in 44 mag hunting load and 22 hornet, Ap70n in 32, 38, 9mm, 357 and 44 mag target loads. Winners must respond within 30 days of receiving notification or an alternate winner will be selected. South Dakota Game, Fish & Parks, State Agency: +1 on Hellbents slant on Titegroup in the .357 . To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. Copyright. Aside from your .357 loads, you can fire several others in it, including the .38 Short and Long Colt and the .38 Special. Box 488, Escondido, CA 92033. JHP, 125 gr. with unavoidable grey area. - Take it easy, but take it! ), (See note on Powders below or read all about various Bullseye is also good in .38 Special. Reduced loads in those two can cause some undesirable issues. I love it because of how well it meters in my Dillon powder measure. . I'm thinking Unique, but I'm not sure. Minnesota Deptartment of Natural Resources, State Agency: Some manufacturers make the 148 grain hollow-based wadcutter, but theyre uncommon and expensiveand not tailored to your gun. Winners will be notified by certified mail on official letterhead. Box 488, Escondido, CA 92033. Titegroup is an excellent powder for target and mid range loads. Here's what it's like to shoot this classic scattergun. check out the. rickyd.41Mag said: HP 38/W231 is my most widely used powder. Associated taxes and fees are the responsibility of winners. 20 gauge. All entries must be received by giveaway end date. Powder requirements for the plated bullets are supposed to be half way between lead and jacketed reloading data. I have used Red Dot, Promo, W-231, HP-38, Titegroup, & Unique. What velocities can I safely work my Model 14 up to? Winners must respond within 30 days of receiving notification or an alternate winner will be selected. For plinking and target loads Hodgdon's Univeral Clay's w . It is just a guide and the reason you should start under these charges and work up. These are superbly accurate at distances up to 100 yards and pushed by a stout load of 2400 powder. a slower burning powder, I suggest H-4227, LilGun, W-296,2400, HS6 or No. Raw power? A comprehensive used reloading setup often comes well below the price of a new gun, and if you have one, it can make your existing Magnums so diverse in function its like owning multiple guns. (IV) Winners must undergo a background check (if required) and comply with all other federal, state and local laws. (I) Giveaway ends April 30, 2023. 10 gauge. The powders that are considered "Magnum Powders" are: AA#9, Alliant 2400, W296/H110, both IMR & H4227, Ramshot Enforcer and VV N350. Be sure to enter theNES/MFS March Giveaway ***Taurus G3c***. Most everything else unique or bullseye. over 20 years it was simply known as "the Magnum," as there was no 12 gauge. VihtaVuori Oy Company, reloading booklet Mississippi Deptartment of Wildlife, Fisheries & Parks, State Agency: I've considered H110, but didn't know if it would be a good "all around" powder. (III) Giveaway winner(s) chosen by random drawing. We try 2 different powders, Hodgdon Lilgun and Alliant 300-MP. Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources, State Agency: The reason my loads for the .357 Magnum levergun are the same as they are for the .357 Magnum sixgun is simply because the whole point is to be able to use the same load in both. Bullets are .357 for jacketed and .358 for lead in diameter. Read More Handloading Articles Snuffy. Dillon Precision 14400 38 Spl 357 Mag Pistol 3 Three Die Set Carbide Brand New. with bullets weighing from 125-158 grains. My second choice for light loads would be Winchester 231 or Hodgdon HP-38 which are the same powder. By FortuneCookie45LC. rules basically demand a .45 ACP moonclip gun, but in IDPA the speedloader-fed .357 magnums are alive and well. I have been reloading the .357 Magnum since the middle 1960's. I have found Winchester W231 and Hodgdon HS-6 powders excellent for low and medium velocity loads and H-110, W296 and Hercules 2400 powders excellent for . Sure. ballistics tables call for a muzzle velocity of 1450 fps for the 125 Some loads use bullets of .358 for jacketed and .359 for lead. , to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Montana Fish, Wildlife & Parks, State Agency: As most revolver cartridges fade further into obscurity every year, the .357 continues to have new life breathed into it by ammunition companies and gun manufacturers who recognize the demand for this venerable cartridge. Just remember, in .357 Magnum, some powders can be too fast. I highly recommend using 2 different powders to achieve the best results or those 2 very different rounds. Can you do it? 5.5 to 5.8 grains of Titegroup always worked well for me with pretty much any jacketed or plated 158 gr. Jul 22, 2015. Gregory, I've tried over the years, if I was "tailoring" a load to a specific handgun (especially barrel length), to pay attention to the "burn rate" of the powder. To simplify for conversation's sake, I generally regard loads as low, mid or full and further specify if the context warrants, e.g. The .357 remains the best selling of I don't want to blow myself up right away. If you do use Titegroup, be aware that it is a particularly compact powder. It was not long before Winchester Model 1892s originally in .32-20 were converted to .357 Magnum. IMR TrailBoss are products of IMR (formerly DuPont) Powder Company. All entries must be received by giveaway end date. Mike was nice enough to hook me up with some cases and 172gr LSWC bullets. fps, and a maximum load of 17.2 grains of H110 will drive the same Iowa Department of Natural Resources, State Agency: davestarbuck posted this 06 December 2010. JavaScript is disabled. Texas Parks & Wildlife Department, State Agency: Customer experience was, and still is, the primary focus, a key to the firms longevity and success. When I began (starting with .38's), I picked up a pound of Hodgdon 'Universal Clays'. Fast Pistol Powder: Accurate #2 (My Favorite) Accurate #2 is an interesting powder in that it is one of the rare "low density" spherical powders. I have found these to be useful practice and guys", but have not provided top accuracy in my .357 handguns. Neither The High Road nor any of its directors, members, managers, employees, agents, vendors, or suppliers will be liable for any direct, indirect, general, bodily injury, compensatory, special, punitive, consequential, or incidental damages including, without limitation, lost profits or revenues, costs of replacement goods, loss or damage to data arising out of the use or inability to use this forum or any services associated with this forum, or damages from the use of or reliance on the information present on this forum, even if you have been advised of the possibility of such damages. Like they say, this is close enough for government work. However, it gains right at 400 fps from the 18-1/2 Marlin 1894 and puts three shots in 3/4 at 45 yards. There are several good handgun powders for that use such as AA-1680, H-110 and 4227 and IMR 4427. Stay in the know. New Hampshire Fish & Game Department, State Agency: This is a good load. To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. Cartridges page. Employees and agents of Publishers Development Corp. are not eligible. the original magnum pistol cartridge, was introduced in 1935 by Smith Hodgdon CFE Pistol is best suited for cartridges producing the middle range of power (non-magnum pistol loads in most calibers including 500 S&W). and 8 lb. North Dakota Game & Fish Department, State Agency: Powders .) It's a super accurate load in the Model 19s and the Model 27. ticket for many big game hunting applications and for defense in the that can be adapted to all types of activity. No substitutions or transfers to third parties allowed. Hodgdon - 700-X. I'm old school though , been loading since mid eighties , haven't tried the newer powders on the market. Is it worth my effort in developing 357mag loads using this powder..wondering if it was to fast..I am using 158gr sierra JHP bullets. I also want to reload .38's with it. My most-used load these days in a .357 Magnum sixgun is the Lyman #358156GC bullet over 14.0 grains of #2400. Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: GUNS Magazine, GOM April 2023, P.O. Due to different barrel lengths, type of bullet, seating depth, primer type and other factors, you may not get near the FPS charted. If you do use it in your 357Mag revolver, could you do a simple test for us? These bullets have a cannelure. That's not what you asked at all. But have used Power Pistol in .357 Sig. According to Quickload .357 data using a .357, 158, Sierra JSP FN 8340. JSP, .357 with JHP, .357 with JSP. I have found Winchester W231 Reloading booklet Alliant Powder Co. Reloaders Guide (1995) Hodgdons Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: GUNS Magazine, GOM February 2023, P.O. All with good results. It burns much cleaner than Bull's Eye and gives great accuracy. Because of Titegroup's density, the ONLY place I will use it is in 380 and below cartridges. The Handgun Reloading I'd be happy with 1300 or 1400. Sounds like you used a standard primer. Cowboy Action Shooting .357 load. Surprisingly, or not so surprisingly depending upon your point of view, factory chambered leverguns for the .44 Magnum were offered more than 15 years before arriving in .357 Magnum. Some people might think this is too little gun for a humane kill on a whitetail; this is misguided. 85. SAFETY DATA SHEET. For hotter .357 Magnum loads, any of the Hornady 158-grain jacketed bullets (hollow points, flat points, and full metal jacket flat points) work superbly well with 15.7 . For .357 the old standby was 2400. Subscribe To GUNS Magazine. Thanks for all the input guys. One powder for 38 and 357mag. This loading breaks 1,340 fps in my four-inch barrel Python. Ive also never loaded a factory round into my Model 13 and had it shoot to point of aim the way I want it to. Figure 3. Oklahoma Department of Wildlife Conservation, State Agency: I use hodgdon HS6 and Lil gun for my .357 loads and lilgun for the .454 casull. 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In the 1:16 16.25 barrels, we tested loads from subsonic .38 Special to a stout .357 Maximum and everything in between. There are now 25 states with so-called Constitutional carry and Florida appears to be approaching permitless carry, which translates to more citizens S&W Set The Bar For Magnum Handgun Performance 50 Years Ago. Hornady XTP HP's is Accurate Arms #9 powder. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Dillon Precision 14400 38 Spl 357 Mag Pistol 3 Three Die Set Carbide Brand New at the best online prices at eBay! Jacketed bullets create a bit more wear on the bore, but its better than trying to wire brush out a bunch of lead build up. engine block. It gives the same or better velocities than Hodgdon's H110 and Wichester's Win296 (which are the same powder and either would be my second choice with Herc 2400 coming in third) at about 2/3 the pressure. I've been loading a 180gr. Accuracy can be greatly refined through reloading, though I would go factory for self defense. Any suggestions? They are all determined experimentally. For lead bullets, Unique is great. The company made its humble start in 1963in Gussago, Italywhen Giuseppe Pietta made a commitment to produce guns as authentic and true-to-original as possible. Is a VERY GOOD powder for mid range .357 loads but would opt out on this one for hotter personal defense loads or hunting ammo . Switch to jacketed bullets in the .357 Magnum levergun and things get really interesting. For me, I use 231 for light plinkers in .357 mag with 125 grain cast bullets. Oregon Department of Fish & Wildlife, State Agency: However, load them in the Henry Big Boy and we pick up 375 fps and 250 fps respectively. When customers ask us which powder is the best, the short answer is always "it depends!" . They show 2400 as the best powder to use for reloading the .357 Magnum cartridge. Commercial .38s make for light recoil, inexpensive .357 practice rounds. Associated taxes and fees are the responsibility of winners. Winchester #209 Primers for Shotshells. It has been my favorite .357Mag load for 40+yr. & Wesson as the world's most powerful handgun cartridge. The .357 remains the best selling of all magnum handgun cartridges and among the top 10 best selling handgun cartridges. (II) Limit one (1) entry per household; multiple entries will disqualify entrants. (IV) Winners must undergo a background check (if required) and comply with all other federal, state and local laws. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. They list Titegroup for .357 mag with a 158 gr XTP. Hand loading self-defense ammo isnt recommended so well table that, but you can load up practice rounds that can approximate your chosen self-defense loads. The loads are not updated yearly. It was our first magnum revolver cartridge and offered sensational velocities for that era, as it advertised a 158-grain SWC-style bullet at 1,510 feet per second (fps) from a 834-inch barrel, but was around 1,400 to 1,450 fps in most revolvers. Result of not working out is a kaboom and potential injury. But it may depend on your definition of 'full power'. Maine Department of Inland Fisheries & Wildlife, State Agency: The revolver has fallen out of favour in Bullseye but it still makes a great centrefire gun, and one of handgunnings most accurate loadsthe 148 grain hollow based wadcutter with Bullseye powdersaw most of its use here. All Rights Reserved, it doesnt show its potential unless you start handloading it. 357 caliber. It gives the same or better velocities than Hodgdon's H110 and Wichester's Win296 (which are the same powder and either would be my second choice with Herc 2400 coming in third) at about 2/3 the pressure.

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